Tag: Senior Living

QUOTES

“We take seriously our role of keeping providers informed and helping them make a difference in their work.” (Kimberly)

“The industry needs to find a way to address the discrepancy between supply and demand. There’s just not enough supply right now.” (Kimberly)

“Providers need to be careful that the tech they adopt will solve the issues they’re facing. Don’t be tempted by the latest shiny object and be sure to do due diligence.” (Kimberly)

“What I find surprising is how quickly people will believe whatever they read online if it fits into their belief system.” (Kimberly)

“A healthy dose of skepticism is critical these days.” (Kimberly)

“Our writers have to write three stories a day, five days a week. I don’t have time to read a long, drawn-out pitch before I get to what you’re actually pitching. Get to the point right away.” (Kimberly)

“If you’re going to send me something under embargo, have someone available to talk about it immediately. If you’re not ready, don’t send it.” (Kimberly)

“It’s okay to say that you can’t comment, especially on pending litigation. Even better, you can talk about initiating an internal investigation regarding an event.” (Kimberly)

“Assisted living is moving to more of a healthcare model, whether the sector wants to admit it or not.” (Kimberly)

“I told my husband I was going to quit my job of 20 years and go to work for this publication. He just about lost his mind. I knew this is what I wanted to do, and I went for it. It’s worked out great.” (Kimberly)

NOTES

Kimberly is a content editor at McKnight’s Senior Living, where she covers the business, workforce, policy and innovation shaping senior housing. With a background in journalism and public relations, she brings deep industry context and a sharp editorial lens to aging services.

McKnight’s Senior Living is one of the industry’s most trusted B2B publications, delivering news, insight and analysis for senior housing leaders nationwide. The publication recently earned a Neal Award, considered the Pulitzer Prize of business-to-business journalism.

Kimberly previously spent more than 20 years in public relations and daily journalism before joining McKnight’s in 2019, just as the pandemic reshaped senior living. Her experience on both sides of the media relationship informs her practical guidance for providers and PR teams.

The “silver wave” has arrived, with demand for senior living far outpacing new development and supply.

Assisted living is steadily shifting toward a healthcare model, including value-based care and deeper clinical integration.

Staffing challenges are evolving from pay and bonuses to culture, recognition and meaningful engagement.

AI and technology can help, but providers must avoid chasing shiny tools that don’t solve real problems.

Solo agers and the middle market represent growing populations the industry still underestimates.

Trust in media is declining, making skepticism, accuracy and transparency more critical than ever.

Successful media pitches are concise, timely and supported by immediate access to knowledgeable sources.

High-performing operators rely on data, active industry engagement and leadership that listens and communicates openly.

Season 1 of Roundtable Talk set out to challenge everything we think we know about aging and ended up reframing what’s possible across an entire lifetime. Check out the recap episode here. 

Across more than 20 conversations, Varsity’s aging and longevity podcast brought together gerontologists, policymakers, innovators, artists, journalists, and senior living leaders who are reshaping how we live, work, and contribute as we age. From public health and technology to purpose, creativity, and community, each guest added a vital layer to a more hopeful, human-centered narrative of longevity.

The season opened with cultural icons and truth-tellers like Garrison Keillor and Mo Rocca, who reminded us that humor, curiosity, and engagement don’t fade with age—they sharpen. Terry Farrell brought a deeply personal perspective on reinvention and authenticity, while Diane Harris and Dr. Sara Zeff Geber tackled the realities of solo aging, financial longevity, and planning for independence without fear.

Leading voices in aging science and public health—including Dr. Linda Fried, Dr. Louise Aronson, Dr. Kerry Burnight, and Dr. David Katz—challenged ageism head-on, reframed frailty and wellness, and made a compelling case for focusing on health span, not just life span. Their insights made it clear that aging well isn’t accidental—it’s systemic, behavioral, and deeply connected to how we design communities and care.

Innovation emerged as a recurring theme through conversations with Rick Robinson, Laurie Orlov, Dr. Tom Kamber, and Rob Liebreich, who explored how technology—from AI to digital literacy to cognitive health tools—can support independence, connection, and dignity when designed with older adults, not just for them.

The season also spotlighted bold models for aging with purpose and belonging. Andrew Carle and Lindsey Beagley explored university-based retirement communities and lifelong learning as antidotes to isolation. Barbara Sullivan highlighted the power of grassroots villages. Bridget Weston showed how older adults are fueling entrepreneurship through mentorship, while Brian Fried proved creativity and invention have no expiration date.

Rounding out the season, industry leaders like Larry Carlson, Scott Townsley, Marvell Adams Jr., Peter Murphy Lewis, and Dr. Robyn Stone confronted the hard truths facing senior living, caregiving, workforce sustainability, and inclusion, offering both critique and optimism for what comes next.

Season 1 of Roundtable Talk set out to challenge everything we think we know about aging and ended up reframing what’s possible across an entire lifetime.

Across more than 20 conversations, Varsity’s aging and longevity podcast brought together gerontologists, policymakers, innovators, artists, journalists, and senior living leaders who are reshaping how we live, work, and contribute as we age. From public health and technology to purpose, creativity, and community, each guest added a vital layer to a more hopeful, human-centered narrative of longevity.

The season opened with cultural icons and truth-tellers like Garrison Keillor and Mo Rocca, who reminded us that humor, curiosity, and engagement don’t fade with age—they sharpen. Terry Farrell brought a deeply personal perspective on reinvention and authenticity, while Diane Harris and Dr. Sara Zeff Geber tackled the realities of solo aging, financial longevity, and planning for independence without fear.

Leading voices in aging science and public health—including Dr. Linda Fried, Dr. Louise Aronson, Dr. Kerry Burnight, and Dr. David Katz—challenged ageism head-on, reframed frailty and wellness, and made a compelling case for focusing on health span, not just life span. Their insights made it clear that aging well isn’t accidental—it’s systemic, behavioral, and deeply connected to how we design communities and care.

Innovation emerged as a recurring theme through conversations with Rick Robinson, Laurie Orlov, Dr. Tom Kamber, and Rob Liebreich, who explored how technology—from AI to digital literacy to cognitive health tools—can support independence, connection, and dignity when designed with older adults, not just for them.

The season also spotlighted bold models for aging with purpose and belonging. Andrew Carle and Lindsey Beagley explored university-based retirement communities and lifelong learning as antidotes to isolation. Barbara Sullivan highlighted the power of grassroots villages. Bridget Weston showed how older adults are fueling entrepreneurship through mentorship, while Brian Fried proved creativity and invention have no expiration date.

Rounding out the season, industry leaders like Larry Carlson, Scott Townsley, Marvell Adams Jr., Peter Murphy Lewis, and Dr. Robyn Stone confronted the hard truths facing senior living, caregiving, workforce sustainability, and inclusion, offering both critique and optimism for what comes next.

The following is a guest blog entry from Larry Carlson. Larry is an advisor, board member, and author of Avandell: Reimagining the Dementia Experience. A longtime CEO in senior living, he now writes and speaks about helping older adults finish strong — living with purpose, vitality, and impact in their third age.

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Evelyn begins every morning with a ritual. She walks to the garden courtyard just after sunrise, coffee in hand, and tends to the flowers she planted last spring. “It’s funny,” she said one day, “I thought I was just helping the staff with the garden. But these mornings…they help me.”

Her comment captured something profound: legacy isn’t built at the end of life — it’s lived in the everyday choices that give it meaning.

Legacy Is Not a Monument

When people hear the word legacy, they often think of something grand — a foundation, a building, a name etched on a wall. But legacy, in its truest form, is about influence that outlasts effort.

It’s the ripple effect of kindness, wisdom, and faithfulness that shapes others long after we’re gone. For older adults, that legacy is expressed not through what they’ve achieved, but through how they continue to live now — through mentoring, listening, volunteering, or simply showing up with grace.

Why This Matters for Our Field

If you work in senior living, you’re surrounded by legacy every day — though it doesn’t always announce itself. It shows up in quiet acts:

• A retired teacher helping a neighbor relearn to read after a stroke.
• A group of residents teaching English as a second language to staff who are new to the country.
• A widow leading a grief group because she knows the terrain of loss.

These aren’t “programs.” They’re expressions of purpose. And when communities make space for this kind of living legacy, they move beyond hospitality — they become incubators of meaning.

From Activities to Agency

Most communities excel at creating activities. Fewer help residents create agency. Agency doesn’t mean expecting residents to carry the weight of running a community. It means honoring their capacity to contribute — to lead where appropriate, to share what they know, and to shape the life of the community in ways that give meaning to their days.

When residents are given the chance to lead, share, or shape what happens next, something shifts. They stop being consumers of experiences and start being co-creators of community life. That’s when vitality and belonging grow — and when marketing gains authentic stories that resonate with prospects and families alike.

Ask yourself:

• Are our residents seen as participants, or as partners?
• Do we celebrate what they still give, or mainly what they receive?
• How often do we invite them to shape the story of the community itself?

The answers to those questions reveal whether we’re truly helping people finish strong.

The Power of Storytelling

Living the legacy daily means telling stories that show what purpose looks like in real life.It’s the resident who teaches art again after decades away, the couple who celebrates their 60th anniversary surrounded by friends, or the quiet volunteer who prays over every new arrival.

These stories remind prospects — and team members — that senior living isn’t about ending well; it’s about living fully.

Closing Thought

Legacy isn’t a line in an obituary. It’s a daily practice.

Every day, we have the chance to help someone rediscover meaning, contribute to others, and live with vitality. When our communities nurture that kind of purpose, we’re not just offering care — we’re helping people write the most meaningful chapter of their lives.

That’s the heartbeat of Finishing Strong.

About the Author

Larry Carlson is an advisor, board member, and author of Avandell: Reimagining the Dementia Experience. A longtime CEO in senior living, he now writes and speaks about helping older adults finish strong — living with purpose, vitality, and impact in their third age.

Wellness in senior living is not a checklist. It’s personal, it changes over time and it’s shaped as much by connection and purpose as it is by health metrics.

That theme drove a recent conversation on Varsity’s weekly Roundtable with Kyle Robinson of Wellzesta, an all-in-one engagement platform that connects residents, staff and families while supporting wellness and day-to-day communication. Kyle shared practical ways to think about engagement as part of both the resident experience and the prospect journey. Below are a few Fresh Perspectives from her discussion.

WELLNESS ISN’T A PROGRAM — IT’S A PERSONALIZED JOURNEY

Wellness showed up repeatedly as something deeply individual and constantly evolving. It’s not about checking boxes or showcasing amenities, but about understanding what matters to each person and meeting them there, across physical, social, emotional and environmental dimensions.

SOCIAL CONNECTION MAY BE THE MOST UNDERRATED HEALTH DRIVER IN SENIOR LIVING

While physical wellness often gets top billing, socialization emerged as a cornerstone of longevity, happiness and cognitive health. The contrast between Babo and Mimi made it clear: connection, purpose and engagement can radically shape how people age, even in similar environments.

DATA ONLY MATTERS IF IT TELLS A HUMAN STORY

Metrics on their own aren’t compelling. What makes them powerful is how they help communities explain what life actually feels like, what’s working and where residents are thriving or drifting. Used well, data becomes a storytelling tool for residents, prospects and staff alike.

TECHNOLOGY WORKS BEST WHEN IT AMPLIFIES AUTONOMY, NOT CONTROL

The most effective tech wasn’t framed as something staff “manage,” but something residents use to explore, connect and lead their own experiences. From wellness scoring to AI-powered interest matching, the shift is toward enabling choice and self-direction.

CARE TRANSITIONS CAN QUIETLY ERODE IDENTITY IF CONNECTION ISN’T PROTECTED

Mimi’s move to a higher level of care revealed a subtle but important truth: even when physical needs are met, changes in routine, environment and social engagement can affect how someone feels about themselves. Supporting identity and connection during transitions is just as critical as clinical care.

STAFF WELLNESS AND RESIDENT WELLNESS ARE DEEPLY LINKED

The conversation widened to include staff burnout and personal well-being, acknowledging how much caregivers and teams give every day. Supporting wellness isn’t just about residents, it’s about sustaining the people who make community life possible.

Varsity’s Roundtable is a weekly virtual gathering of senior living marketers and leaders from across the nation. For updates about future weekly Roundtable gatherings, submit your name and email address here. 

QUOTES

“We have been fed a steady diet of inaccurate information about growing older, and that information is that it’s all decline. And the truth is in the literature that there are many things that get better as you get older. We don’t care as much what people think about us, we appreciate our connections more, and we have greater potential for problem solving.” (Dr. Burnight)

“I’ve just been amazed by, like, who would think that a book on aging would become a New York Times bestseller? I mean, that’s where people are in recognizing these 100-year lives and recognizing that the status quo is not sufficient.” (Dr. Burnight)

“There were times where I had my head down on the keyboard crying because it was so hard because I wanted to bring in all the research, but I also wanted to make it really readable. And so I just kept thinking, simplify, simplify.” (Dr. Burnight)

“When I realized that the American Psychological Association defines joy as well-being and satisfaction, it made me realize that joy isn’t this like happy, happy, you know. It’s the opposite of toxic positivity.” (Dr. Burnight)

“What they said is that happiness is often circumstantially dependent, whereas joy can exist even in challenge because it’s an inside out phenomena. And that was an ah-ha moment for me.” (Dr. Burnight)

“I don’t know any older adults who haven’t had significant challenges. That is the nature of being a human. And we’re going to have those challenges. So it isn’t that we’re going to control for everything. That’s impossible. It’s that we’re going to find a way to have joy anyway.” (Dr. Burnight)

“What the research shows us is that genetics predicts between 13% and 25% of our aging experience. So the vast majority is up to us.” (Dr. Burnight)

“One utterly suffered, and it was such a rough road, and it was really hard to be around her. And then the other one had found this ability to be content, and we couldn’t get enough of her… we watched that it is possible to walk with grief and joy.” (Dr. Burnight)

NOTES

Dr. Kerry Burnight is a nationally recognized gerontologist, author, speaker and advocate with more than three decades of experience working with older adults and families. Her work focuses on aging, joy, well-being, elder abuse prevention and redefining longevity beyond decline.

Dr. Burnight is the author of JoySpan, a New York Times bestseller that reframes aging by emphasizing joy, adaptability and meaning alongside lifespan and healthspan. She is also a co-founder of the Elder Abuse Forensic Center and a leader in research-driven aging policy and practice.

Joy is not fleeting happiness but a deeper sense of well-being that can coexist with hardship and challenge.

Genetics play a smaller role in aging outcomes than commonly believed, with most of the aging experience shaped by behavior and mindset.

Joy and well-being can be intentionally built through daily practices, much like physical health.

People who thrive in long lives consistently invest in growth, connection, adaptability and contribution.

Aging is not solely defined by decline; many cognitive, emotional and relational strengths improve with age.

Gratitude and attention shape perception, influencing both mood and social connection.

Loneliness is best addressed through proactive effort, including initiating relationships rather than waiting to be invited.

Society, policy and senior living environments must move away from infantilizing older adults and toward dignity, choice and purpose.

The following is a guest blog entry from Larry Carlson. Larry is an advisor, board member, and author of Avandell: Reimagining the Dementia Experience. A longtime CEO in senior living, he now writes and speaks about helping older adults finish strong — living with purpose, vitality, and impact in their third age.

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When Margaret toured the community, she wasn’t looking for a swimming pool or a dining venue. She was searching for something she couldn’t quite name — a place that felt alive.

“I don’t want to just move somewhere,” she said. “I want to belong somewhere.”

That line stopped me cold. Because in those few words, Margaret captured the emotional core of every senior living decision. Beneath the surface questions about cost, care, or square footage lies something deeper: What will this next chapter make possible?

From Transaction to Transformation

For years, our industry has measured success by occupancy numbers, conversions, and closing ratios. But older adults aren’t just customers — they’re people navigating one of life’s most personal transitions.

Today’s generation doesn’t want to be sold a lifestyle; they want to be guided toward a renewed sense of purpose, belonging, and vitality. That shift — from selling units to guiding journeys — changes everything. It calls us to approach marketing not as persuasion, but as partnership.

Start with Empathy

Guiding begins with listening. It’s about asking deeper questions:

• What does thriving look like for you now?
• What do you still want to contribute or experience?
• What would make this move feel meaningful — not just comfortable?

When we pause long enough to hear the story behind the inquiry, we stop trying to fill vacancies and start helping people envision a future they can believe in. That’s when trust forms — and when connection turns into commitment.

Purpose Is the New Differentiator

Amenities can be copied. Purpose cannot. Communities that help residents connect their gifts and passions to something larger than themselves stand out in a crowded marketplace. They become places where:

• Residents lead, not just attend.
• Marketing highlights impact, not just activities.
• Staff speak the language of mission, not just service.

When marketing reflects that kind of authenticity, it attracts more than prospects. It inspires teams and reminds everyone why this work matters.

A New Kind of Conversation

The next time you sit down with a prospective resident, listen not for what they want, but for who they’re becoming. Because what we’re really offering isn’t just a new address — it’s a new beginning. We’re not helping people move in; we’re helping them move forward.

Closing Thought

Selling fills units.
Guiding changes lives.

When we reframe our role from closing deals to opening doors of purpose, we honor both the people we serve and the calling behind this work. That’s what finishing strong looks like — for residents, and for all of us who serve them.

About the Author

Larry Carlson is an advisor, board member, and author of Avandell: Reimagining the Dementia Experience. A longtime CEO in senior living, he now writes and speaks about helping older adults finish strong — living with purpose, vitality, and impact in their third age.

The following is a guest blog entry from Larry Carlson. Larry is an advisor, board member, and author of Avandell: Reimagining the Dementia Experience. A longtime CEO in senior living, he now writes and speaks about helping older adults finish strong — living with purpose, vitality, and impact in their third age.

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Dave slid into the booth across from me at a diner just off the interstate. He wrapped his hands around the coffee mug, stared at it for a long moment, and finally said, “I thought retirement would feel free. But most days… I just feel numb.”

I set down my fork and asked, “What’s going on?” “It’s not money,” he said. “We’re fine there. It’s just… I’ve drifted into a routine. Golf. TV. A few volunteer things here and there. But it feels like I’m just filling time — not really living it.”

That conversation has stayed with me for years because Dave’s story is not unusual. In fact, it’s a warning. Many people enter their later years expecting a sense of freedom but instead discover the subtle pull of drift. That quiet drift — the slow slide into comfort without real purpose — is what I call coasting. It’s the opposite of finishing strong.

WHY THIS MATTERS IN OUR FIELD

If you work in senior living, you see this reality every day. Many older adults enter a new chapter of life without a clear sense of purpose. They’ve achieved career milestones, raised families, and handled responsibilities… but now they’re unsure what comes next. As marketing and sales professionals, you’re not just presenting floorplans and amenities. You’re often the first person who can help them see the possibility of a meaningful next chapter.

THE HEART OF FINISHING STRONG

Finishing strong isn’t about staying busy or packing in more activities. It’s about:

• Choosing purpose over drift
• Nurturing relationships over routines
• Building vitality — not just longevity
• Continuing to contribute rather than retreat

For many of the people you serve, that requires re‑imagining what their next chapter can look like — a vision that includes both community and purpose.

THE MARKETING OPPORTUNITY

Here’s the reality: most prospective residents (and often their adult children) aren’t ust looking for a safe place to live. They’re searching — sometimes without even realizing it — for a reason to keep leaning forward. That’s especially true for the new generation of older adults. Many of them spent their lives leading businesses, shaping organizations, or building teams. When they move into a community, they’re not looking to be merely entertained. They want to continue living with influence and impact — to use their experience and gifts in ways that matter.

For communities, that shift is both a challenge and an opportunity. It means going beyond programs and amenities to create meaningful ways for residents to contribute — helping them live out their legacy while strengthening the community as a whole. When your conversations and messaging speak to that deeper need for purpose and impact — not just features — it resonates. You’re no longer simply selling; you’re helping them envision a future they can invest themselves in.

A QUESTION WORTH ASKING

So here’s the challenge — for those you serve and for ourselves as well: Are we coasting or are we finishing strong? That single question can spark a shift — in a prospective resident who feels adrift, or in a professional who’s been running hard but hasn’t paused to think about what really matters in the long run.

CLOSING THOUGHT

Every conversation you have as a marketing or sales professional can be more than a transaction. It can be an invitation — to live with purpose, to stay engaged, to finish strong. Helping people see that possibility is one of the most meaningful contributions you can make in this field.

 

 

When it comes to retirement, most people spend years planning their finances—but far less time planning where they’ll live. Yet “place” plays just as big a role in well-being as savings or investments. Where you live influences health, happiness, and independence, which makes it a critical (and often overlooked) part of financial planning.

That’s why Meg Stoltzfus, LCPC, and Lydia Durski, CFP®, from Financial Council, are rethinking how advisors help clients plan for the future. During this week’s Roundtable, they shared how “place planning” brings a human-centered lens to retirement decisions, integrating emotional, social, and lifestyle factors into financial strategy. The result is a more complete picture of what it truly means to live well in the years ahead. Below are a few Fresh Perspectives from their discussion. 

HUMAN-CENTERED DIFFERENTIATION

Financial Council didn’t create its navigation program as a marketing tactic, it was born from a genuine need to help clients make better life decisions. That authenticity has become a powerful differentiator in a crowded marketplace.

GUIDED DECISION-MAKING

Clients often default to staying at home simply because they don’t understand all the options. Acting as an unbiased guide, Meg helps them define goals, weigh choices, and move from reactive to proactive planning.

THE VALUE OF “PLACE PLANNING” 

Instead of focusing solely on housing, the firm uses place planning—factoring in health, finances, and social connections—to help clients envision where and how they want to live across different stages of retirement.

A ROLE BEYOND FINANCE 

Meg’s position is rare in financial services but likely to grow. By combining counseling expertise with financial planning, she brings a uniquely human layer that technology or AI cannot replicate.

PARTNERSHIPS THAT BUILD TRUST 

Senior living communities, care managers, and financial advisors can be stronger together. Building these relationships provides clients with holistic, unbiased guidance and strengthens trust across all sides.

Varsity’s Roundtable is a weekly virtual gathering of senior living marketers and leaders from across the nation. For updates about future weekly Roundtable gatherings, submit your name and email address here. 

Every great story starts with someone worth caring about. On Varsity’s Roundtable Talk, documentary filmmaker Peter Murphy Lewis shared how his series People Worth Caring About gives voice to the caregivers whose compassion and commitment define long-term care communities across the country.

Peter shared how his grandparents’ positive experiences in senior living inspired his work and why focusing on staff stories helps shift public perception. He recalled moving encounters in hospice, lessons about dignity and language, and how storytelling can inspire young people to see caregiving as a calling.

The following are some fresh perspectives from the conversation. Check out the full episode here. 

WHAT INSPIRED YOU TO CREATE “PEOPLE WORTH CARING ABOUT”?

It was a personal story that started it. When I began working in long-term care, I realized caregivers were fighting against a negative perception that existed even before COVID and was made worse by the pandemic. My own grandparents had incredible caregivers — people who treated them with love and dignity. But those caregivers rarely get the recognition they deserve. I wanted to change that narrative.

WHY DID YOU CHOOSE TO FOCUS ON STAFF STORIES RATHER THAN RESIDENTS?

My background helped shape that decision. I used to host a TV show in South America similar to Dirty Jobs, where I interviewed people doing hard, meaningful work. So when I started this project, I naturally focused on caregivers. Looking back, that choice was “accidentally strategic.” When you put caregivers front and center, people don’t criticize — they empathize. You can’t look at someone like LaVita, who’s worked in memory care for 30 years, and not feel admiration.

WAS THERE A MOMENT THAT MADE YOU REALIZE YOU WERE ONTO SOMETHING SPECIAL?

Yes, on the very first day of filming in Nebraska. We visited a hospice called the Grace Space. One of the residents, Kim, was nonverbal, but she communicated with her CNA, a young man about 19 or 20, through her phone. She wrote that she felt blessed to have him caring for her and that she was excited to go to heaven, where she could dance again. That moment showed me how deep these relationships go — and I knew right then we weren’t just making a short film. We had a full season’s worth of powerful stories.

HOW DO CAREGIVERS STAY GROUNDED IN SUCH EMOTIONALLY DEMANDING WORK?

They’re stronger than I am. I think a lot of them have a love language rooted in service — they feel fulfilled by doing things for others. They find purpose in making people feel valued and comfortable. It’s not easy, but they have this incredible ability to compartmentalize and keep giving. Their hearts are built for it.

WHAT KIND OF IMPACT HAS THE SERIES HAD ON THE INDUSTRY?

The feedback has been incredible. Leaders from the American Healthcare Association called it an authentic depiction of long-term care. State associations are even using clips for advocacy — geofencing them around the U.S. Capitol so lawmakers see them. They’re also using the series for fundraising and to show the real faces behind the work. The reactions from caregivers themselves, and even my own father’s emotional response at the premiere, reminded me why this storytelling matters.

Want to hear more from Peter? Check out the full episode of Roundtable Talk for more fresh perspectives. Watch new episodes of Roundtable Talk on the Varsity website and on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and iHeartRadio.